I just noticed your September 2024 blog post / manifesto. In it I note that you indicated that perpetual sales ended in 2023 and that V9 will be end of the road for perpetual users.
First, small plug for keeping perpetual. Maybe just time-bar it to 3 or 4 years. Basically I’d rather pay a lump sum up front. But I understand that may not align with your business goals.
Now, onto my question. Do you know the migration path yet? When v10 is released will I just buy a sub in v9 and then upgrade to v10? Or will I need to download v10 and buy the sub there? I assume everything will migrate over.
If you don’t know the details yet, that’s fine. Just wanting to get ahead of it since I tend to adopt new versions within days of their release.
I’ve been using Roomie for a long while, and the Perpetual renewal is great. My system is “what it is”, and only doing minor tweaks on the remote setup. If it changes, so long as support is there, I’ll keep supporting you because this is the only thing out there “that works”. Cheers!
That was covered last September per the OP. Subscriptions carry right over to the new app. Perpetual has no end date in the app in which it was purchased and doesn’t apply to a different app. (This is exactly how V4 to V5 worked, and has been covered constantly since introduction.)
Technically, you don’t need to Backup (because we could never assume that users would do that anyway). Installing V10 will automatically copy the latest V9 config to V10. Whatever you do after you install V10 affects only the app in which you do it. But the config you have in V9 at the moment of running V10 for the first time is the config V10 starts with. Of course, you can restore a V9 config to V10 if you later want to sync things up. You can’t restore V10 to V9. There are many, many changes in V10, so that wouldn’t work anyway.
Also note that V10 is a much larger set of changes than the usual release and we have not yet entered beta, so it will still be a bit.
Just to confirm, item #4 if we move to V10 we will have to start a new annual subscription plan? Correct? Will v9 be there for all those who bought perpetual and will be maintained ? How long ?
I totally understand if in future we all have to move to subscription plans, the entire s/w industry is moving towards that to have a sustainable business…
V10 subscriptions are not the same as V9 subscriptions, but V9 subscriptions work fine in V10. Perpetual is not a subscription. It keeps working in V9. V9 will be removed from the App Store at some point after V10. Again, just like V4 to V5 and V5 to V6. There are still a few people on V4 somehow even though I have a list of at least 10 major things broken in V4 now.
Once you see V10 just imagine the people who say ‘who moved my cheese’ every time we change a button, then you will understand why it’s better to change apps if we do a major UI revamp like V5 and V10.
Yes, I have updated all my devices to iOS 26, also assuming V10 will be a totally different app and both V9 and V10 can exist in parallel on same devices/home setup
Will V10 still require a Primary device? Also, if we run an AppleTV with TV OS26, can we use it for both Roomie control and as an Apple TV or we still need two separate devices, 1 to run Roomie and the other to function as an AppleTV source?
Essentially, the answer to that is yes, V10 definitely requires a primary device – assuming you use anything that requires it which includes automation, relay devices (many devices are marked for relay because they have connection limits but they work fine if you limit to one at a time), Alexa responses, local network control, and Remote Access (coming in V10).
Roomie must be in the foreground to be a Primary Controller on iOS and tvOS. However, on macOS, it does not need to be in the foreground, just running.
This Fall will be an excellent time to re-purpose an old Apple TV (the ones they sell right now) as a Primary Controller when you upgrade to the new Apple TV (presumed in October).
Also, as an update, we’re not yet in Beta though very close. I could not be more pleased with V10. By far the most exciting release of Roomie in many years, possibly ever. Adopting Liquid Glass among many other things has gone very well.
